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Martakon · May 12, 2006, 09:11 PM // 21:11

Hmmm, is it only me or i feel factions is alot easier then ??chapter 1. You can be lvl + 15 at Island and rest of a little bit of the real map... I feel the game is not so good as chapter 1

. So i hope they gonna do it better at chapter 3

lanfire · May 12, 2006, 09:16 PM // 21:16

i hope they ll raise the lvl cap to lvl 40 or something what they probaly wont do cause they want 2 keep it a balanced game :/

Arkantos · May 12, 2006, 09:21 PM // 21:21

you can lvl faster in factions, but its way harder. You can do anything in prophecies with henchies, in factions people have trouble getting past 3rd mainland mission with henchies. You tell me whats harder.

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Originally Posted by lanfire

i hope they ll raise the lvl cap to lvl 40 or something what they probaly wont do cause they want 2 keep it a balanced game :/

At lvl 40 you'd have about 1,000hp and 400 attrib points. With that, the game would be pretty much crap. Some things are already over powered, we dont need this.

Martakon · May 12, 2006, 09:31 PM // 21:31

It harder to lvl up in chapter 1 :S?

Arkantos · May 12, 2006, 09:33 PM // 21:33

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Originally Posted by Martakon

It harder to lvl up in chapter 1 :S?

in ch1, playing the game, you'd get to lvl 20 around crystal desert, the 3rd last area. In ch2, you can easily get to lvl 20 by 2nd area.

Martakon · May 12, 2006, 09:36 PM // 21:36

Yes, that mean factions is easier :

DeanBB · May 12, 2006, 09:45 PM // 21:45

Reaching level 20 does not mean the game is over. Tyria had smaller quest rewards so leveling just took longer.

Pevil Lihatuh · May 12, 2006, 09:48 PM // 21:48

Levelling up is easier, the game itself is harder.

Martakon · May 12, 2006, 09:53 PM // 21:53

But, then why they not raise the lvl to 40 or something?

Ondo · May 12, 2006, 09:55 PM // 21:55

I personally don't find Factions easier. Yes you may feel you level fast at first, but there's a design of game that makes it a requirement (IMHO). What you may not be realising is that when you get to LA in Chappter 1 you are pretty close to that level you would be by the end of the island. 15 to 17ish
Once leaving the Islands you can go to LA fairly easy. At which point you can do the Chapter 1 missions and quest and even ascend. Once that's achieved you can return to Cantha and continue where you left of at a comfortable level, and with those few skills you might of missed out on (or had to purchase) in the Factions only side. Yes this might bite for Factions Only characters/owners but that's the design as I understand it. An equal and ballanced play between the two chapters.
I can only hope this kind of helps and explains the "easier" feel to Factions over chapter 1. Trying to do mainland quest/missions as a level 17 is a very difficult challenge to say the least. Fighting level 20 + foes. Of course this is only this person opinion and we all know what that means.

Mandy Memory · May 12, 2006, 09:57 PM // 21:57

Factions is quite a bit more challenging and a much better game. If chapter 3 follows the trend, gw will outsell whatever other games come out around the same time.

(as long as they dont raise the level cap or slow down leveling...then most people will quit)

Insurgent · May 12, 2006, 09:58 PM // 21:58

Hey can any one tell me where to get my second attribute quest, i have beaten the game(factions) and still only have 185 atty points?

Kha · May 12, 2006, 10:07 PM // 22:07

Why do people always think that higher lvl limit means harder game? Crappy games have brainwashed so many. Tsk tsk.

broodijzer · May 12, 2006, 10:12 PM // 22:12

yep.. you don't improve stat-wise after the 2nd mission.. but the enemy monsters do improve.. so it's only making it harder. Instead of "takes 3 hits to kill a spider at lvl 1, and 3 hits to kill a high lvl spider at lvl 99"

Dr Strangelove · May 12, 2006, 10:12 PM // 22:12

Factions is much more challenging than Prophecies. I Just went back and did a few mission in the jungle for the bonuses, and it was amazing how much easier they were. There was never even a remote chance of dying. Yes, it is easier to hit level 20, but the point of the game is not to hit level 20. "Beating" the game entails finishing all the missions which are tailored to level 20 players. IN my opinion, that's much better as the only missions that were fun in prophecies were those at the crystal desert and beyond, during which (surprise) people were level 20.

MCS · May 12, 2006, 10:30 PM // 22:30

........... ANet will NEVER raise the level cap, don't even speak the blasphemy.

As for the game being easier what the f*ck....? If you honestly think the game is easier then you must not have even played it. Bosses do 2x damage now, mobs are bigger and higher leveled, the henchmen AI is worse. The game is so much harder it isn't even funny.

I don't know why you would ever thing a higher level means it's harder. What kind of logic is that? You're a higher level everything else is a higher level, how is it harder?

The reason they give you so much EXP is so that when people use chars they already have from tyria they come over and join people from cantha that are level 20. If they made it take half the game to get level 20 then people who came over from tyria instead of starting new chars would miss half the game.

Sir Skullcrasher · May 12, 2006, 10:37 PM // 22:37

Factions is not easy. I dare anyone *level 20 or below* to get a group and do the "Captured Son" quest from the Harbor. I swear, this is the toughest quest i ever been to. So many mobs and no real way to pull one group without aggoring others. I end up dying there (using henchies) 10 times before i give up.

MCS · May 12, 2006, 10:43 PM // 22:43

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Originally Posted by sir skulkcrasher

Factions is not easy. I dare anyone *level 20 or below* to get a group and do the "Captured Son" question from the Harbor. I swear, this is the toughest quest i ever been to. So many mobs and no real way to pull one group without aggoring others. I end up dying there (using henchies) 10 times before i give up.

Indeed, near impossible with henchmen but pretty easy with people.

Pevil Lihatuh · May 12, 2006, 10:48 PM // 22:48

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Originally Posted by sir skulkcrasher

Factions is not easy. I dare anyone *level 20 or below* to get a group and do the "Captured Son" question from the Harbor. I swear, this is the toughest quest i ever been to. So many mobs and no real way to pull one group without aggoring others. I end up dying there (using henchies) 10 times before i give up.

Heh I did it with both my Assassin and my Ritualist with only henchies (lvl 13ish with Rit, 14ish with assassin) and I added a good... 25 deaths to each char. Incredibly hard, but very rewarding!

MCS · May 12, 2006, 10:52 PM // 22:52

Henchmen only need 1 command and they would be godly, HOLD POSITION. Just like a button you press and your henchmen won't follow you, it would be great

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May 12, 2006, 09:11 PM // 21:11	#1
Martakon Academy Page Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Denmark! Guild: Pure Phoenix [Pure] ( Luxon ) Profession: W/Mo	Guild Wars is gonna die! Hmmm, is it only me or i feel factions is alot easier then ??chapter 1. You can be lvl + 15 at Island and rest of a little bit of the real map... I feel the game is not so good as chapter 1 . So i hope they gonna do it better at chapter 3

May 12, 2006, 10:07 PM // 22:07	#13
Kha Sins FTW! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Guild: Angel Sharks [AS]	Why do people always think that higher lvl limit means harder game? Crappy games have brainwashed so many. Tsk tsk. __________________

May 12, 2006, 10:30 PM // 22:30	#16
MCS Banned Join Date: May 2005	........... ANet will NEVER raise the level cap, don't even speak the blasphemy. As for the game being easier what the f*ck....? If you honestly think the game is easier then you must not have even played it. Bosses do 2x damage now, mobs are bigger and higher leveled, the henchmen AI is worse. The game is so much harder it isn't even funny. I don't know why you would ever thing a higher level means it's harder. What kind of logic is that? You're a higher level everything else is a higher level, how is it harder? The reason they give you so much EXP is so that when people use chars they already have from tyria they come over and join people from cantha that are level 20. If they made it take half the game to get level 20 then people who came over from tyria instead of starting new chars would miss half the game. __________________ I just wanted to see if I can do this. Leet.

May 12, 2006, 10:37 PM // 22:37	#17
Sir Skullcrasher Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: California Guild: 15 over 50 [Rare] Profession: W/Mo	Factions is not easy. I dare anyone level 20 or below to get a group and do the "Captured Son" quest from the Harbor. I swear, this is the toughest quest i ever been to. So many mobs and no real way to pull one group without aggoring others. I end up dying there (using henchies) 10 times before i give up. Last edited by sir skulkcrasher; May 12, 2006 at 11:21 PM // 23:21..

May 12, 2006, 10:52 PM // 22:52	#20
MCS Banned Join Date: May 2005	Henchmen only need 1 command and they would be godly, HOLD POSITION. Just like a button you press and your henchmen won't follow you, it would be great . __________________ I just wanted to see if I can do this. Leet.

May 12, 2006, 09:16 PM // 21:16	#2
lanfire Academy Page Join Date: Feb 2006 Guild: Aa Profession: W/Mo	i hope they ll raise the lvl cap to lvl 40 or something what they probaly wont do cause they want 2 keep it a balanced game :/

May 12, 2006, 09:31 PM // 21:31	#4
Martakon Academy Page Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Denmark! Guild: Pure Phoenix [Pure] ( Luxon ) Profession: W/Mo	It harder to lvl up in chapter 1 :S?

May 12, 2006, 09:36 PM // 21:36	#6
Martakon Academy Page Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Denmark! Guild: Pure Phoenix [Pure] ( Luxon ) Profession: W/Mo	Yes, that mean factions is easier :

May 12, 2006, 09:45 PM // 21:45	#7
DeanBB Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Arizona Guild: Wizardry Players Guild, http://4guildwars.7.forumer.com	Reaching level 20 does not mean the game is over. Tyria had smaller quest rewards so leveling just took longer.

May 12, 2006, 09:48 PM // 21:48	#8
Pevil Lihatuh Jungle Guide Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Yorkshire, UK Profession: R/Me	Levelling up is easier, the game itself is harder.

May 12, 2006, 09:53 PM // 21:53	#9
Martakon Academy Page Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Denmark! Guild: Pure Phoenix [Pure] ( Luxon ) Profession: W/Mo	But, then why they not raise the lvl to 40 or something?

May 12, 2006, 09:55 PM // 21:55	#10
Ondo Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: USA Guild: Heavenly Shadows [milf] Profession: W/R	I personally don't find Factions easier. Yes you may feel you level fast at first, but there's a design of game that makes it a requirement (IMHO). What you may not be realising is that when you get to LA in Chappter 1 you are pretty close to that level you would be by the end of the island. 15 to 17ish Once leaving the Islands you can go to LA fairly easy. At which point you can do the Chapter 1 missions and quest and even ascend. Once that's achieved you can return to Cantha and continue where you left of at a comfortable level, and with those few skills you might of missed out on (or had to purchase) in the Factions only side. Yes this might bite for Factions Only characters/owners but that's the design as I understand it. An equal and ballanced play between the two chapters. I can only hope this kind of helps and explains the "easier" feel to Factions over chapter 1. Trying to do mainland quest/missions as a level 17 is a very difficult challenge to say the least. Fighting level 20 + foes. Of course this is only this person opinion and we all know what that means.

May 12, 2006, 09:57 PM // 21:57	#11
Mandy Memory Desert Nomad Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Guild: Xen of Sigils [XoO] Profession: W/	Factions is quite a bit more challenging and a much better game. If chapter 3 follows the trend, gw will outsell whatever other games come out around the same time. (as long as they dont raise the level cap or slow down leveling...then most people will quit)

May 12, 2006, 09:58 PM // 21:58	#12
Insurgent Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2006 Profession: Me/W	Hey can any one tell me where to get my second attribute quest, i have beaten the game(factions) and still only have 185 atty points?

May 12, 2006, 10:12 PM // 22:12	#14
broodijzer Jungle Guide Join Date: Jan 2006 Guild: void Profession: Mo/	yep.. you don't improve stat-wise after the 2nd mission.. but the enemy monsters do improve.. so it's only making it harder. Instead of "takes 3 hits to kill a spider at lvl 1, and 3 hits to kill a high lvl spider at lvl 99"

May 12, 2006, 10:12 PM // 22:12	#15
Dr Strangelove Furnace Stoker Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Wasting away again in Margaritaville Guild: [HOTR]	Factions is much more challenging than Prophecies. I Just went back and did a few mission in the jungle for the bonuses, and it was amazing how much easier they were. There was never even a remote chance of dying. Yes, it is easier to hit level 20, but the point of the game is not to hit level 20. "Beating" the game entails finishing all the missions which are tailored to level 20 players. IN my opinion, that's much better as the only missions that were fun in prophecies were those at the crystal desert and beyond, during which (surprise) people were level 20.